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Certain aspects of DBT are subject to debate, including the rule that states, "Any individual who misses four consecutive DBT meetings can no longer work with their preassigned DBT therapist, no matter how long they have been working together." Although this rule is intended to encourage participation, Peer Counselors and Disability Advocates like Raquel Santiago, a certified peer counselor and first responder in San Francisco, argue that this rule tends to penalize patients unfairly, since even hospitalizations for medical purposes are not exempt.[citation needed]
Additionally, learning and remembering the counter-intuitive acronyms used to label the modules can pose a challenge to people who suffer from cognitive processing delays caused by either medication, the symptoms of their diagnosis, or other organic functioning issues.[citation needed]

-- Cdw ♥'s ♪ ♫(talk) 01:51, 18 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nice job on the article. I have only one complaint. You removed the underlines from the characters making up the acronyms. I think they were useful and would like to restore them. -- Cdw ♥'s ♪ ♫(talk) 02:45, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I do DBT, and the "4 misses in a row" is a real rule, but it's oversimplified here. I don't think it happens as much as the critic makes it sound. DBT therapists don't just drop people as clients, there's interventions in place to prevent 4 misses in a row like using phone coaching and addressing commitment to the program. Clients start knowing the rule before starting phase 1 and agree to it, and if there's concerns, the therapist is trained to address it. I think I have too much COI to make any edits myself on this page. In Marsha Linehan's memoir, she addresses critiques herself as it was challenging to establish the treatment, so that could be a good place to start and then find independent sources that explain it.

Jennarachel107 (talk) 18:57, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I’ve read something to that effect in Brodsky & Stanley, but it’s not showing up in my PDF search right now. I might do a more in-depth look later. Artoria 2e5 🌉 00:05, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead could use improvement

I skimmed most of the lead and still couldn't tell you how DBT works, what the steps are, etc. I think that info should be front and center, in the first or second sentence. –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:24, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change of source and text

In the article there is quite a bit of text with the wrong source. It is the last part of the section Emotion regulation, starting with the sentence "Emotional regulation skills are based on the theory that ... and finishes with "to remain stable and alert in a crisis". The source mentioned is: Linehan, Marsha M. (2014). "Research on Dialectical Behavior Therapy: Summary of Non-rct Studies". When reading this source, it is a summary of research that doesn't verify the text. So I went back to History, and saw that in May 2019 (I just randomly picked a date) the source to the same sentences was a different one: Linehan: The DBT skills training manual. So I am changing the sources back to the original ones.

Okay, now I get it. The original source is this: {{Cite web|url=http://behavioraltech.org/downloads/Research-on-DBT_Summary-of-Data-to-Date.pdf|title=DBT Skills Training Manual |edition=2nd |last=Linehan|first=Marsha M. |date=2014|website=www.guilford.com|publisher=Guilford Press|access-date=11 December 2016}} As you can see, the title says DBT Skills Training Manual and the link goes to Research-on-DBT_Summary-of-Data-to-Date.pdf. I guess this Research-on-DBT_Summary was an appendix to the book that is also a pdf. Somewhere during the years since, an editor corrected the link so it was only the pdf and no longer the book.Lova Falk (talk) 05:50, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The text that it sources is this one: Emotional regulation skills are based on the theory that intense emotions are a conditioned response to troublesome experiences, the conditioned stimulus, and therefore, are required to alter the patient’s conditioned response. - written by 12-edits editor user:Kdicarlo. This is what I make of it: The theory holds that intense emotions are conditioned responses to distressing experiences, which serve as the conditioned stimuli. Emotional regulation skills are taught to help patients modify their conditioned responses. Please let me know if you think this is not correct! Lova Falk (talk) 06:07, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]