Talk:Murder of Jacob Wetterling

While the biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately. If such material is re-inserted repeatedly, or if there are other concerns related to this policy, please see this noticeboard.

Biography

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles

Crime and Criminal Biography Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Death Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Death, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Death on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DeathWikipedia:WikiProject DeathTemplate:WikiProject DeathDeath articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Minnesota Mid‑importance

	Minnesota portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Minnesota, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to Minnesota on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.MinnesotaWikipedia:WikiProject MinnesotaTemplate:WikiProject MinnesotaMinnesota articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

United States Mid‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Untitled

Jacob's middle name is, "Erwin", so I'm adding that in. Erwin is his grandfather's first name. Erwin died in 1997, without ever knowing what happened to his grandson. TripleH1976 05:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Jacob Wetterling. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/20061116165005/http://www.courttv.com:80/news/hiddentraces/wetterling/wetterling_page2.html to http://www.courttv.com/news/hiddentraces/wetterling/wetterling_page2.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 13:40, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Some points

Heinrich was charged in federal court with 25 counts of child pornography. The federal penalty for that conduct is more severe than the state penalty, which is why the federal and not the state route was the one taken.
He pled guilty to one of those counts; the remainder were dismissed under the plea agreement.
As the kidnap and murder occurred entirely within the state, there was no basis for federal charges.
Heinrich has not been charged by the state for the kidnap and murder of Jacob. He will not be charged for the murder and kidnap under the plea agreement.
As part of the plea agreement, the state gave up the right to prosecute Heinrich for kidnapping and murder.
The plea agreement was approved by the Wetterling family.
When the sentence has been served, Heinrich may remain confined if Minnesota seeks and obtains civil commitment.

Most of these points were covered in the news conference which just concluded.

Kablammo (talk) 20:20, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This source from MPR also covers these points. Kablammo (talk) 23:55, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why did the FBI not test the DNA back in 1989

Danny James Heinrich, was publicly named in regard to Wetterling's disappearance. He had been questioned by the FBI on December 16, 1989 and a DNA sample was taken, but he was not charged with a crime and was let go.

It says a DNA sample was taken. Was it not tested until decades later? It says it matches a different rape victim, but statue of limitations say they couldn't charge him by the time they got around to testing it. Article would benefit from specific information about this key aspect of the case. Anyone read anything that showed why? Dream Focus 23:06, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, and the question has been asked elsewhere. There appears to have been a lack of coordination and failure to share information between local authorities.

As for the FBI, it may have been felt was no federal crime involved as the crime was a kidnapping within one state and there was no known basis of federal jurisdiction, such as transporting the victim across state lines. See 1034. Kidnapping—Federal Jurisdiction Federal jurisdiction over the more recent underage pornography charges stems from use of wire services that transmitted it.

None of this is ripe for the article; while there has been speculation on these issues I haven't seen anything definitive. Kablammo (talk) 23:43, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dream Focus, I think you will find some answers here: In the Dark, from American Public Media.

Regards, Kablammo (talk) 21:33, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Jacob Wetterling. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20160904161202/http://www.northlandsnewscenter.com/news/crime/392241351.html to http://www.northlandsnewscenter.com/news/crime/392241351.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:59, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Danny Heinrich background/childhood

Is there any information on who/when/how this perm was himself groomed and molested? 2606:A800:C195:8400:24D7:77D3:3DFA:2ACB (talk) 15:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Patty Wetterling into Murder of Jacob Wetterling

Patty Wetterling advocacy and campaign work is intricately tied with the disappearance and death of her son. She can be covered within Murder of Jacob Wetterling as there is already a lot of redundancy between the two, and her political work can be condensed Star Mississippi 18:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. Her notability is based on her own achievements, and goes far beyond dealing only with her son's disappearance. Bryan Krippner (talk) 19:43, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree as well. Wetterling's achievements have surpassed justification for her to be tied solely to her son's murder. Cedar Tree 23:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Me too. I disagree. A known murder of a person which has lots of information to become its own article shall NOT be connected to an article of a person who has enough notability to have an own article. What I'm trying to say is both articles are notable to exist, and there is no thing that makes the other article an duplicate of the other ones information, and none of the articles are stubs. Spongebob796 (talk) 12:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also disagree, for the reasons expressed above. Kablammo (talk) 21:44, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]